SubTo vs AstroFlipping: reported cost, size and what's included (2026)
An even-handed, sourced comparison. Neither program is affiliated with REI Boss.
| SubTo | AstroFlipping | |
|---|---|---|
| Run by | Pace Morby | Jamil Damji |
| Type | coaching program | coaching program |
| Reported price | Sources conflict: Accelerator $9,800 (or $2,450/mo x 4), Executive $11,800, Master $15,800, Elite $18,800 (Real Estate Bees, Apr 20, 2026) vs a $7,800 to $19,000 range (Ark7, Sep 11, 2026). SubTo does not publish official pricing. (source) | Accelerator $5,800; Executive $7,500 (from student testimonials; no official price list found) (source) |
| Software included | The Standard tier reportedly includes a CRM whose vendor is not publicly named. | The Executive tier reportedly includes full CRM setup and workflow automation with a CRM whose vendor is not publicly named. |
| Who it serves | beginner — mostly people learning creative finance and subject-to deals, with a share moving into early-operator volume. | beginner — mostly new wholesalers, with a path toward operator through Damji's KeyGlee franchise network. |
SubTo
SubTo is Pace Morby's paid creative-finance community, focused on subject-to deals. It is the largest documented paid community in the operator tier of this research. SubTo does not publish its prices, so every figure here comes from third-party review sites, and those sites disagree: Real Estate Bees lists four tiers from $9,800 to $18,800, while Ark7 reports a $7,800 to $19,000 range. Ark7 also reports more than 10,000 members, more than 20 live Zoom sessions a week, a private Facebook group and a Discord. Ark7 says the Standard tier bundles AstroFlipping access, VA support, a transaction coordinator and a CRM whose vendor is not publicly named. Subject-to deals also carry structural legal scrutiny, so anyone evaluating the program should read its terms closely.
AstroFlipping
AstroFlipping is Jamil Damji's wholesaling training program. Its prices are not published by the company; Real Estate Bees reports them from student testimonials at $5,800 for the Accelerator tier and $7,500 for Executive. The Executive tier is described as including two wholesaler websites, full CRM setup and workflow automation, and live calls. The CRM in that setup is not named in any public source in the research. The AstroFlipping Facebook community has more than 4,000 members. Separately, Ark7 reports that SubTo's Standard tier bundles AstroFlipping access, which ties the two communities together. Damji also co-owns the KeyGlee wholesale franchise and hosts the AstroFlipping Show.
Whether you go with SubTo or AstroFlipping, the program teaches the strategy. Running it as a business is what decides whether the strategy keeps paying: every lead in one pipeline, follow-up that never slips, and a weekly meeting that looks at real numbers. REI Boss is an operating system built for exactly that stage.
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